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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Cloud Surfer on June 26, 2012, 06:43 pm
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Hi All,
As you might have noticed our BOMB coke was bashed in the forums by Costello143
Claiming he is a sample tester trying to win credibility from the community.
Now.
Let's take a closer look at his posts.
Every once in a while he demands a full refund (sweet, free drugs) still his stats say 0%??!!
He has multiple profiles where he orders from the same Vendor from different accounts.
This so he can build a statement based on multiple people saying the exact same thing with the same typing errors, while this is actually one person.
We have tested our coke and it is by far one of the best batches we ever had!
So the 2 people who claimed this is not the case come from the same small country where we never sent any orders too.
Costello143 told me (very confident, a bit to if you ask me) in a threatening kinda message that I will have to wait and see that more will follow.
And we have one open order to the same country so this must be the 3rd to complain so Costello can get his statement right
Costello143 and Aeneas77 both from the same country hate our coke, this will also be the case with one review still to come from M..... who is ALSO FROM THE SAME COUNTRY.
Lets take a look at Aeneas77, always posting questions to fill the post numbers up.
This is clearly the same person!!! BOTH receiving refunds every now and then.
I dont mean to lower myself in the same way.
But this was SET UP FROM THE START because both users put their review on the forum and made their accusations BEFORE talking to us.
And after it was public, DEMAND a FULL REFUND,
Costello got a 50% refund and left the rating at 1/5.
We know what we sell and what we sell is good!
Just like the M, our C was bound to be a huge success and we wouldn't want to fuck our 100% stats up by selectively scamming ''mr honest sample tester''
That would be a MORON MOVE that we clearly would never make.
ANY VENDOR THAT WANTS TO HAVE MORE INFO ABOUT THESE 3 KNOWN ACCOUNTS SEND ME A PM>>
AND WATCH OUT FOR 1 MORE NEGATIVE REVIEW FROM A USER ABOUT OUR C. STARTING WITH M.....
Took some detective work but im positive that the CS vendor page has been scammed by a buyer as we KNOW this C is the BOMB]
p.s.
Costello, thanks for the free advertisement and you can release your anger below.......
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Why don't you apply to be allowed in the Vendor Forum and then you can add his name to the scammer list there mate?
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Thanks, where can I apply?
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Good for you man.. You are a vendor.. Why don't you get his stats and post them up for the public to see :P
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Thanks, where can I apply?
Message DigitalAlch and request a pass. :)
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Good for you man.. You are a vendor.. Why don't you get his stats and post them up for the public to see :P
Yes please, make that ...
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Now this is getting interesting...
<pulls up a chair>
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You'll get yours man.. Karma is a bitch sometimes.
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I'll be honest - my missus read the review and was kind of wary about ordering off cloudworks - she tested the sample and said it was really nice - she KNOWS her coke, I do also but confess my missus was used to good coke as relatives in the USA/Mexico do treat her nicely. At first they hid it (doing coke) then she spotted someone obviously coked up and said it was bad manners to keep things to yourself!
Anyhow - she tested the cloudworks and allowed me a taste. I can be happy with 100mg of coke, but if its not good coke that is when I feel like more. So I leave it as its obviously going to need washing.
Anyhow - I guess if a vendor is going to selectively scam it is not going to be members who would cry the eternal blues - or come out in FULL CAP LOCK MODE.
So sure, I guess vendors get hit by this scamming - honest vendors just starting could fall victim to this so I guess you have your asses covered in your forum. But this being drugs and all you have to expect immoral people so to speak.
Most people here play the game. As a buyer (currently on a buy slow due to awaiting funds!) I am honest - I FE as soon as the envelope hits the red carpet! Everything has arrived apart from 2 grams of hash. I think the vendor never sent it or wrapped the hash in tissue or something. So my stats have like 3% refund!
What my stats do not say is that I got taken by the guy in Canada - Tony something - needed the dollars for a sex change I guess. So he could take it three ways.
Well, interesting thread, will follow it and I guess CS is 100% behind his product which is good to see.
My point is that reviews do matter and can lose you customers.
But that said, it does not mean a unhappy customers is lying.
But with a 'good coke/bad coke' argument there is one party telling the truth and one party lying.
No middle ground really.
Next?
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@Cloudsurfer:
Hi Mate
let me out of this.....if you have beef with Costello...your problem.......I gave you after refund 5/5....and my reports/post are always
in an objective manner....if you really wanna analyze the posts....do it right.....
And let me out of this shit....its like kindergarten
Here my stats:
Total transactions: 132
Total spent: ฿1295.46
Refund rate: 0.51%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 9 months
and your's?
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Hey RED what about Costello man? Do you think he would go as far as be scamming? He has nearly 500 post and has got a forum presence here. People who put that much effort into a profile don't usually throw it away by lying or scamming although I know that it does happen.
And cloudsurfer has my confidence as well. He has paid for and maintained a vendors account while giving refunds to both members who slandered his name and rep. That isn't the actions of a deceitful person. So are we torn by this?
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Hey RED what about Costello man? Do you think he would go as far as be scamming? He has nearly 500 post and has got a forum presence here. People who put that much effort into a profile don't usually throw it away by lying or scamming although I know that it does happen.
And cloudsurfer has my confidence as well. He has paid for and maintained a vendors account while giving refunds to both members who slandered his name and rep. That isn't the actions of a deceitful person. So are we torn by this?
Lol Tony76 had 500 forum posts I believe.....then he jacked a quarter of a mil.
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Costello has been acting like a buffoon in the coke review thread for the past few days, and I highly doubt he was ripped off by cloudsurfer. Yo Costello, it's 2 g's of powder, enjoy it and stop acting like a cunt. This is why we can't have nice things
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a quarter mil? OMG man that's mind boggling
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a quarter mil? OMG man that's mind boggling
Crazy innit? Let's start a shop ralph and earn ourselves a nice car huh? ;D
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a quarter mil? OMG man that's mind boggling
Lol is it? The only thing I find mind boggling about it is that that many people were retarded enough to FE when the warning signs were there and you could see countless people FEing every minute. May as well have set fire to £50 notes lol.
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I guess the temptation was just too much for tony76 to handle. a Quarter of a million dollars. How many other vendors would take the money and run? I guess those buyers either didn't see the warning signs or just ignored them in the tempting drugs that he offered.
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I guess the temptation was just too much for tony76 to handle. a Quarter of a million dollars. How many other vendors would take the money and run? I guess those buyers either didn't see the warning signs or just ignored them in the tempting drugs that he offered.
This is going to be slightly controversial but fuck it. The hard truth of why they got screwed is because it's very easy to take advantage of junkies.
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yea you right Lim I never bought from tony76 but according to what I've read he had some of the best quality products ever to be here. I think he's still here under a different name.
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Not to piss in the puddle, but Costello has always seemed to be a good guy, and usually writes unbiased reviews on product he gets. If he had an issue with the product, he should have gone through you first, but is that really enough reason to put his name on a "shitty" buyer list? When I got some god awful blow from GOA a few months back, your damn right I went to the forums. We also discussed it (GOA and I). He did what a good vendor does, owned up to a bad batch and refunded me money (several others were complaining). One time, I got an order from MIN that was absolute garbage as well - believe it or not, it was directly correlated to his shipping method (not to go in detail, but something he shipped it in mixed w/ the product) Everyone makes mistakes, vendors and buyers.
I remember Costello talking about how good your sample was. This alone probably generated you business. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to rant and rave just to get free product, especially since he said how good it was originally (plus, he spends a lot of money on here). If there has been a pattern of him doing this in the past, I apologize, but in my opinion, if you aren't happy with what you get, you should get at least a partial refund period! Especially if you are an established member on this site. If he was some jackass that has 10 posts and has spent 400 bucks, I can see not taking him seriously, but he has been very adamant that he was unhappy with the product. I think he has bought from just about everyone else - has anyone else had this problem?
FWIW, the way this has been handled would make me steer clear of buying from you (I don't think I'm in your "shipping" zone anyway).
I'm also fairly sure these are two different people. One barely speaks english, the other seems fluent (or more fluent).
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I'm inclined to think this is just some unfortunate distribution cock up of some kind or something. I think CS has to much to loose, and I actually believe Costello who seems a straight kinda guy....in an anonymous drug purchasing forum kinda way.
I just can't see what either of them would gain by this. As it is, they have divided opinion and both reps have fallen. Just sayin' like.
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yea you right Lim I never bought from tony76 but according to what I've read he had some of the best quality products ever to be here. I think he's still here under a different name.
Yeah a lot of people do mate.
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I'm no junkie..... I have to plan getting high.... I get a 2 day overnight baby sitter for my son..... My wife and I start doing drugs and take our clothing off, and continue doing drugs.. :P
I ordered MDMA from him on the 4/20 for a buddy of mine.... I had a few successful orders with him so i said shit why not..... well i got fucked out of 5 gram MDMA... at 23 bucks a gram or some shit.. so nothing to crazy but still... PISSES me the FUCK off..... can you say Doucher?
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I'm no junkie..... I have to plan getting high.... I get a 2 day overnight baby sitter for my son..... My wife and I start doing drugs and take our clothing off, and continue doing drugs.. :P
I ordered MDMA from him on the 4/20 for a buddy of mine.... I had a few successful orders with him so i said shit why not..... well i got fucked out of 5 gram MDMA... at 23 bucks a gram or some shit.. so nothing to crazy but still... PISSES me the FUCK off..... can you say Doucher?
Sorry I was actually way too broad there. I didn't mean everyone did it because of that reason but I don't think it's unrealistic to assume it was a major factor regarding the people who got stripped for the H.
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I have tried H once in my life.. Got some good #3 from a vendor.. It got me really high but it taste so bad smoking it that it wasn't worth the high IMO :P
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Not to piss in the puddle, but Costello has always seemed to be a good guy, and usually writes unbiased reviews on product he gets. If he had an issue with the product, he should have gone through you first, but is that really enough reason to put his name on a "shitty" buyer list? When I got some god awful blow from GOA a few months back, your damn right I went to the forums. We also discussed it (GOA and I). He did what a good vendor does, owned up to a bad batch and refunded me money (several others were complaining). One time, I got an order from MIN that was absolute garbage as well - believe it or not, it was directly correlated to his shipping method (not to go in detail, but something he shipped it in mixed w/ the product) Everyone makes mistakes, vendors and buyers.
I remember Costello talking about how good your sample was. This alone probably generated you business. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to rant and rave just to get free product, especially since he said how good it was originally (plus, he spends a lot of money on here). If there has been a pattern of him doing this in the past, I apologize, but in my opinion, if you aren't happy with what you get, you should get at least a partial refund period! Especially if you are an established member on this site. If he was some jackass that has 10 posts and has spent 400 bucks, I can see not taking him seriously, but he has been very adamant that he was unhappy with the product. I think he has bought from just about everyone else - has anyone else had this problem?
FWIW, the way this has been handled would make me steer clear of buying from you (I don't think I'm in your "shipping" zone anyway).
I'm also fairly sure these are two different people. One barely speaks english, the other seems fluent (or more fluent).
Your completely right on this one.
But still...
I sell what I love.
And that is not what costello fired at me.
He told us in private messages that there is talk and shit in the coke and more people will be shouting its bad.
This is definitely not the case, but both members spread filth without talking first. This raises suspicion.
Even his statement of different batches in the coke is BS, as we tested some corners and the middle and nothing is wrong.
This is some good uncut Carribean coke.
Let just say I, even IF I wanted to put out perfect samples and fuck people for some bitcoins.
Wouldn't I do that for a longer time then send mr sample tester a perfect sample and then a mixed one after like 5 orders.
I dont ask FE or anything. I'm not here to rip people off, i';m here to stay.
And I like the SR community for how it is.
The fair reviews and ratings.
This is how buyers and sellers can decide on where to buy from or not.
But if a buyer is putting out accusations before talking to me then my mind goes street mode not SR mode.
In real life Costello would have looked behind his back a couple of times because this is how the drug world works.
If a dealer sells you bad coke, would he have gone rogue on you? (No)
If a dealer sells you good coke, would he go rogue on you (Hell yeah)
Here you can talk shit easy because you dont get punished for what you say.
The main thing is...
He lost his credibility for me the moment I woke up and saw [CloudSurfer] Cocaine scam and shit.
A few hours later I got a message that he wanted to talk about it and receive a full refund.
This guy is an idiot the way he dealt this situation.
This is bomb ass coke. If he thinks its not, 1 post is enough, do not put mainstream media style on me.
Its just an opinion...
He got a refund, give 1/5. And now I say how I see this situation and the facts I've noticed.
Both of them talk a lot but none of them claim NOT to be the same..
Same country, same feedback, same day.. sounds like a scam to me..
It's a freedom of speech and for everyone to decide for him/herself...
Wherever you go in your life.. Man to man is always better than spread filth and gossip like a teenage girl!
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Death to costello143
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Costello probably got some sand in his hermaphrodite genitalia
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Did anybody besides Costello receive both a sample and post sample order? I would think that would be the easiest way to clear things up.
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Yes, today one user ( I don't want to mention his name because he might not like it)
He has put this order review up:
5 of 5 Arrived today- was a bit worried with all that has been said but I need not. Good stuff! Packaging was very creative. 5 hours item
I hope he will come forth with his experience with of our cocaine.
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Well hell CloudSurfer do you think that he might have got it in his mind to steer away other buyers so he could be the only one buying your coke? You know, trying to keep it all to himself?
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I don't know what the purpose of this was...
All I know is I lost 2g's and a good rep.
I'm just happy that I get smarter just by reading stuff here.
Get to know the internet world, and the people who surf it.
Loving it up till now where I get street smart and say stuff that some don't want to hear.
We will be here for a while.. But we will stay quiet from now on because this is getting world wide notice thanks to Costello.
From now on we try to talk trough mail and the SR main site.
If necessary we will post a comment here.
Have a good one,
CS
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Hopefully this will shut up that moron Costello. Haha, that guy is a complete jackass. He made these forums unbearable to read for a couple of days
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Lol Tony76 had 500 forum posts I believe.....then he jacked a quarter of a mil.
Bing!
We are all anon here and with coke, lets say users get creative as well as vendors.
Tony76 done me also!
For coke I only buy the odd gram. Maybe an 8 ball for Christmas.
But lets say a user gets a good rep and then sends off for an 8 ball and then sees a listing for 10 grams. Coke sees more scammers in real life than most other drugs. Heroin and cocaine, its a world of deceptive happenings to be honest and anyone taking someones word is either stupid or naive.
How many vendors have refunded 100% to buyers? I am guessing coke dealers with a good turnover may do that. So of you kiss and tell in your own forum that would maybe flag people who consistently cry 'shit coke' when everyone else is praising it.
As for costello - he seems ok to me - he only uses coke so its easy to see if he is a regular boo boy or not. Best done in private really, I kind of feel bad for both parties as cloudsurfer is a new vendor who done the right thing, sent out some nice samplers to people here, I was one of the chosen! (My missus that means!) and she let me have a snifter as she was working away and I was sitting at home looking at the lonely bit of yayo. I took maybe 80mg in a few lines and marched to the pub full of goodwill and feeling mellow and talkative and at ease. No burn, little smell, taste, fine. Went back home, ate, went to sleep fine.
If I struggled to get to sleep it was just the empty space in my bed!
Coke makes me horny. Good coke, I generally think about that.
But I hope CS can understand how just one trusted member can have influence. Abusing that would be bad but I never got the coke so had to put some credence in the words and opinion expressed.
PS - If members here had a word count feature that would sort out scammers creating accounts to back up the scam (be it vendor or buyer)
It is easy to go on a forum and create 500 posts. Many here throw a few lines a day on the 'whoever makes the last post wins' thread. My wordcount is bigger than many most here.
And maybe SR should send the top ten biggest wordcounters some free shit. Not actual shit. I mean we'd all like a love letter and a bunch of flowers and a date maybe but I'm thinking of how much a few bitcoins can make you feel 'loved'.
I mean if I had the biggest dick and not the biggest wordcount, I'd earn from that. People would pay maybe a bitcoin to see me naked, with the daily paper for proof and in whatever position. I could make 100 bitcoins a day.
But back to the issue at hand - I'd get my dick chopped off if I bought 2 grams of coke and got sherbet instead!
just bear that in mind CS as when I get paid, I plan to get the new years coke in very early. I'm not getting caught up in the usual holiday period sting! After tony76 and his holiday sale special - I will buy coke in advance and when a good batch is confirmed. But if I got ripped off on coke, I'd say so. I took photos of one batch, no refund, no reply even! But that is what I get for buying cheap UK coke!
Hope things smooth out for you CS - and hope costello can chill now this has been sorted.
Best just delete this post really or lock it as maybe its a private issue between a vendor and a customer or maybe two claiming they got refunds.
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Ok two vendor slamming each other in open rumor seems quite immature to me.
This all boils down to one not liking the others product giving feedback and then instant spam war.
Guys this type of ridiculous conduct I will not allow in my section of the forums.
:)
nomad